kaisersose
11-02 12:06 PM
Agreed getting a GC is a painful process not to mention the bureaucracies that go with it.Agreed serious lobbying is necessary to bring about a change in the legislative system coz waiting for years to get ones GC is plain ridiculous.But the idea of REVERSE BRAIN DRAIN is just a myth.I am pretty sure that atleast 80% of the people are just average Joes whose intellect is just better than those blonde babes of the "Girl next door" reality series.We should be glad that we were raised in a foreign country lest would have replaced those poor old folks saying "welcome to wal-mart".So lets stop talking about reverse brain drain and atleast not try to replace those intelligent ones back home. We being here is best for our country and our economy.
I am with you. We like to invent all possible reasons to try to show our importance to America, but it is obvious that reverse brain drain is not a real thing.
American will do just fine without all the foreign programmers (including myself) living and working in this country. They can find Americans to do the work or if not, they will offshore jobs. Either way, life will go on as before.
Foeign born programmers are not here because they are exceptionally bright, they are here because they could get a college degree and get trained in programming skills at a cheap throwaway cost, which is harder for an average American to afford. So the foreigner gets to write programs while the American has to settle for a sales position in Best Buy.
What America really needs; what they cannot do without are the maids, landscapers, construction workers and janitors. The politicians who have to make the decision of sending out illegals have to deal with the problem of not finding maids and gardeners for their expensive homes (their wives are not going to let them do that). Easier for them to let the illegal issue prolong while they enjoy the benefits of cheap labor providing by illegals.
The GC system is entirely in our favor. It really does not benefit America in any significant way. The fact remains that we still end up stealing their jobs at some level - whether we are willing to admit it or not.
I am with you. We like to invent all possible reasons to try to show our importance to America, but it is obvious that reverse brain drain is not a real thing.
American will do just fine without all the foreign programmers (including myself) living and working in this country. They can find Americans to do the work or if not, they will offshore jobs. Either way, life will go on as before.
Foeign born programmers are not here because they are exceptionally bright, they are here because they could get a college degree and get trained in programming skills at a cheap throwaway cost, which is harder for an average American to afford. So the foreigner gets to write programs while the American has to settle for a sales position in Best Buy.
What America really needs; what they cannot do without are the maids, landscapers, construction workers and janitors. The politicians who have to make the decision of sending out illegals have to deal with the problem of not finding maids and gardeners for their expensive homes (their wives are not going to let them do that). Easier for them to let the illegal issue prolong while they enjoy the benefits of cheap labor providing by illegals.
The GC system is entirely in our favor. It really does not benefit America in any significant way. The fact remains that we still end up stealing their jobs at some level - whether we are willing to admit it or not.
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sam_hoosier
03-08 05:16 PM
desis will never change
The non-paying members comprise of desis as well as non-desis :) Lets not point fingers at anyone group.
The non-paying members comprise of desis as well as non-desis :) Lets not point fingers at anyone group.
optimist578
03-08 04:05 PM
So I am assuming we have a way to track who they are. Why don't we tag them - on the colored button on the top right, saying something like "xxx doesnot want to contribute but has posted 239 messages" and let people decide whether to read or ignore his message.
With total contributions < 20% (may be lower) then Payton Boggs fees (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=50347&postcount=4) and repeated requests to focus on financial contributions, $0 contributing members continue (with utter dis-regard to financial contributions) to post in IV forums.
There is a member with $0 contributions but 239 posts (often non-english) containing utter nonsense. My dog can post 100 posts and become a senior member. However, my dog will be less shameless so as to avoid misusing someone's scarse resources.
We have 97% (of 9,000) members who can not pay $20. This is when Aman has spent 30-40K and core members have spent in K's.
The Skilled tag of IV members is only for Labor Certification. Shame on all financially non-contributing members and non-members who continue to hang here.
How dare you find IV only when you have a question?
How dare you get depressed and frustated on IV forums?
How dare you continue discussing unrelated issues when we don't have finances for Patton Boggs?
With total contributions < 20% (may be lower) then Payton Boggs fees (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=50347&postcount=4) and repeated requests to focus on financial contributions, $0 contributing members continue (with utter dis-regard to financial contributions) to post in IV forums.
There is a member with $0 contributions but 239 posts (often non-english) containing utter nonsense. My dog can post 100 posts and become a senior member. However, my dog will be less shameless so as to avoid misusing someone's scarse resources.
We have 97% (of 9,000) members who can not pay $20. This is when Aman has spent 30-40K and core members have spent in K's.
The Skilled tag of IV members is only for Labor Certification. Shame on all financially non-contributing members and non-members who continue to hang here.
How dare you find IV only when you have a question?
How dare you get depressed and frustated on IV forums?
How dare you continue discussing unrelated issues when we don't have finances for Patton Boggs?
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Bytes4Lunch
08-20 01:01 PM
Good job laying out all usecases "add78".
In my case, I travelled back on AP as my visa extension stamping went pending in Mumbai consulate. Came back here with my I-94 indicating "Parolee" as my new status.
Within 2 weeks, I changed employer as per AC21, they filed for my H1 transfer(premium processing) via Murthy Law Firm. I received a new I94 which put me back in the H1B status. During this 2-3 weeks I was in the US as a parolee I did NOT use the EAD, because you don't have to.
Interestingly after 3 months of my visa application at Mumbai consulate (2 months after I reached US) I received an email from them asking me to submit my passport for stamping. Its unbelievable that they think applicants would still be waiting in India for 3 months and that their employers would still be interested in keeping them, but I guess after all this ordeal I realised, they just don't care.
In my case, I travelled back on AP as my visa extension stamping went pending in Mumbai consulate. Came back here with my I-94 indicating "Parolee" as my new status.
Within 2 weeks, I changed employer as per AC21, they filed for my H1 transfer(premium processing) via Murthy Law Firm. I received a new I94 which put me back in the H1B status. During this 2-3 weeks I was in the US as a parolee I did NOT use the EAD, because you don't have to.
Interestingly after 3 months of my visa application at Mumbai consulate (2 months after I reached US) I received an email from them asking me to submit my passport for stamping. Its unbelievable that they think applicants would still be waiting in India for 3 months and that their employers would still be interested in keeping them, but I guess after all this ordeal I realised, they just don't care.
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sc3
09-24 01:55 AM
You are right, it is very hard to digest, even for you, who seems to support it. And, if I may add, your example it too "complicated" for me. Try giving easy example for me, I am kind a slow, maybe I should get some "preferential treatment". Yes, that's the word, "preferential".
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
I did answer you question, though not explicitly. I hinted that all of us are equal. And BTW: I am an Indian!! (with India as my chargeability area).
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
I did answer you question, though not explicitly. I hinted that all of us are equal. And BTW: I am an Indian!! (with India as my chargeability area).
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).
vandanaverdia
09-11 11:58 AM
Guys, there is a fund drive for 30k in 8 days, please help us to achieve the goal and contribute. 18k more to go.
Help IV help you... Come to DC!!!
Help IV help you... Come to DC!!!
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JazzByTheBay
12-14 02:36 AM
But interestingly, so far the 70/30 ratio between yays and nays has been maintained. (As stated earlier, personally I thought it'd be much worse, more like 30/70 or 20/80 even... ) :)
jazz
Guys, I'm not sure how useful this pole will be, since I suspect that those answering it will not be a statistically representative sample of IV membership, or it is at least hard to demonstrate that it is.
jazz
Guys, I'm not sure how useful this pole will be, since I suspect that those answering it will not be a statistically representative sample of IV membership, or it is at least hard to demonstrate that it is.
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zoooom
07-19 07:02 PM
Do you think it might be a good idea to ask people to pledge amount that they don't know how much is going to be ?
I think instead we need to do the following.
1. Clearly state in the very first message the need for creating this thread (pls include the business week article, Pappu's comments, comment from Aman's co worker - If you need help finding it, i can do it for you).
2. Also add to it that this is for the reimbursement of the expenses of the past. We don't really want to concentrate on how this is going to be handled in the future , may be someone can come up with suggestions on what should be set aside as administrative funds and things related to that. This is only for settling the amount already spent.
3. Only pledge is required stating the amount clearly and no funding is required at this time. We will instruct all the members who pledged once we get an expert advice on how to channel these funds.
If you can make these corrections it will be great.
Will do
I think instead we need to do the following.
1. Clearly state in the very first message the need for creating this thread (pls include the business week article, Pappu's comments, comment from Aman's co worker - If you need help finding it, i can do it for you).
2. Also add to it that this is for the reimbursement of the expenses of the past. We don't really want to concentrate on how this is going to be handled in the future , may be someone can come up with suggestions on what should be set aside as administrative funds and things related to that. This is only for settling the amount already spent.
3. Only pledge is required stating the amount clearly and no funding is required at this time. We will instruct all the members who pledged once we get an expert advice on how to channel these funds.
If you can make these corrections it will be great.
Will do
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eager_immi
07-16 09:02 AM
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bigboy007
07-18 04:46 PM
Are we looking to get the packages back?
I hope you understood the post and meaning of this thread :
1. This thread i believe is aiming at one point tracking july filers also making sure if any INFO that NONE were rejected.
None of us are expecting to get rejected but making sure what ever info we have we are sharing. PERIOD.
I hope you understood the post and meaning of this thread :
1. This thread i believe is aiming at one point tracking july filers also making sure if any INFO that NONE were rejected.
None of us are expecting to get rejected but making sure what ever info we have we are sharing. PERIOD.
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add78
04-27 08:44 PM
I read through the bill but don't quite understand...if I am working for a client on H1B, will I need to stop working as soon as this bill takes effect? or it only applies to newly applied H1B's (or extension/transfer)?
Yes, that is my understanding at this point based on the language . As soon as the bill goes into effect, you will need to stop working at the client site if the bill passes in its current form AND you are working as a FT employee (w-2) of a mere placement company (aka agent or desi consulting). If you are an FT employee of big consulting company then until they get waiver for you AND your current client proves that no layoffs were done at the client site in the last 180 days, you will need to stop working.
Yes, that is my understanding at this point based on the language . As soon as the bill goes into effect, you will need to stop working at the client site if the bill passes in its current form AND you are working as a FT employee (w-2) of a mere placement company (aka agent or desi consulting). If you are an FT employee of big consulting company then until they get waiver for you AND your current client proves that no layoffs were done at the client site in the last 180 days, you will need to stop working.
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TeddyKoochu
01-08 03:39 PM
Visa Bulletin for February 2010 (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4611.html)
1st C C C C C
2nd C 22MAY05 22JAN05 C C
3rd 22SEP02 22SEP02 22JUN01 01JUL02 22SEP02
No Change for EB2-I or EB3-I.
Thanks for posting, only hope for movement seems to be in the last quarter. However lets not give up, we should be hopeful and something good will happen in the last quarter.
1st C C C C C
2nd C 22MAY05 22JAN05 C C
3rd 22SEP02 22SEP02 22JUN01 01JUL02 22SEP02
No Change for EB2-I or EB3-I.
Thanks for posting, only hope for movement seems to be in the last quarter. However lets not give up, we should be hopeful and something good will happen in the last quarter.
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Openarms
06-17 02:55 PM
I have talked to IMG sales rep, he said they won't cover for pre existing conditions. He also said that as far as his knowledge is concerned there is no company out there that covers pre existing conditions when I asked him about it.
My final assumption is that any insurance we buy anywhere, just covers illnesses that are developed after the coverage starts.
Any corrections??
My final assumption is that any insurance we buy anywhere, just covers illnesses that are developed after the coverage starts.
Any corrections??
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soma
03-13 09:32 AM
check mumbai consulate site....EB2 india is dec 2003. ron gotcher was right!!!...yahoooo!!!
the link is http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html
the link is http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html
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prashanthg
03-10 07:03 PM
The 600K+ number must include EB+FB
In the other FOIA thread, the letter from USCIS says that they cannot identify the country of chargeability until the application is adjudicated (may be pre-adjudicated).
May be these 125,000 are pre adjudicated cases and they might have lot more un processed cases where they cannot identify the application as Indian.
If my guess is correct, I am royally ....
In the other FOIA thread, the letter from USCIS says that they cannot identify the country of chargeability until the application is adjudicated (may be pre-adjudicated).
May be these 125,000 are pre adjudicated cases and they might have lot more un processed cases where they cannot identify the application as Indian.
If my guess is correct, I am royally ....
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tonyHK12
04-20 12:59 PM
Hey GG - I did not take offense to your sentiments on B Com. What pissed people off, was your tone and disgust at the poor fellow and his qualifications, especially when you know little about his ability to carry out his job, or his background. In school, or on line -- he earned those degrees. Maybe he didn't have the financial resources to attend the best schools (I don�t know what is IGNOU). His employer has retained him, so perhaps he is good at what he does. He left his home, his family and traveled to some foreign shore to earn a living, not rob a bank. Show some respect. Anyway apologies for anything harsh I have said. Peace.
I assume you've likely never studied in India though. An bachelor's degree in engineering is not very expensive, if you have good grades.
10 years back it would cost about $100-200 a year, if you qualified through a state ranking system.
I assume you've likely never studied in India though. An bachelor's degree in engineering is not very expensive, if you have good grades.
10 years back it would cost about $100-200 a year, if you qualified through a state ranking system.
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wandmaker
12-03 06:17 PM
To avoid transaction charges let users pay quarterly or half-yearly recurring. i.e. if one wants to donate 5$/ month so it will be 30$/ 6 months etc.
It is a good idea to save on recurring charges but monthly contribution will help IV plan things in advance. Whatever you can, donate now and raise the bar!
To raise your spirit, whatever amount you donate now, I will double it IV - send me a PM once you made the payment.
It is a good idea to save on recurring charges but monthly contribution will help IV plan things in advance. Whatever you can, donate now and raise the bar!
To raise your spirit, whatever amount you donate now, I will double it IV - send me a PM once you made the payment.
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snvlgopal
03-30 02:56 PM
Recently i got 3 LUD's on Feb 26, March 27 and today March 30
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ash0210
02-06 02:24 PM
Oh Boy...Big guys like "Aristotle" stuck in Retro...just Kidding...:D
India, sorry for missing that in the earlier post.
India, sorry for missing that in the earlier post.
immigc06
10-02 02:35 PM
reno_john,
Totally agree with you.
Totally agree with you.
catchupvijay
01-30 05:42 PM
Done !
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